ape cam

Let’s be (redacted) & start a (redacted)

edited for space & clarity

DC: If you (were) to start a (redacted) next yr, what kind of (redacted) would you start?

SCI-Arc but different because of regionalism & stuff.

(see: elitism)

I know Cal Berkeley exists, but it is East Bay & I am in No. Bay, the area is

tribal like that.

BB: Build Academy

DC: nice phone app
DC: Running for public office is also good training, & martial arts…very important.
EA: My school offered a joint business and architecture course where we were supposed to learn about business, and they were supposed to learn about design thinking. I dropped after the first few weeks because it was
1) clear that the architecture professor that was teaching it didn’t know anything about business, and
2) the business students didn’t know anything about doing homework. Their idea of working on a group project was to let the architecture students do all of it (because they were too busy with Greek life), and then get together 5 minutes before class to go over the presentation.

Part of me wishes I stayed in the class and learned how not to care from the business students. Looking back, they had the right attitude.

J: A roommate of mine was a business major.

He would pop Adderall two days before deadlines and cram, sit for his test/exam, pass easily with an A or B, then go back to his normal routine of working, skipping classes, and/or partying. He’s now making significantly more than me working for a bank. I wonder if they teach that mentality?

DC: This seems to prepare them for Wall Street and also the film industry.

J: Martial arts = neat belt

Winning an election = no neat belt

DC: I’ve neglected the martial arts portion (until recently).
(One) gets nice “consulting” gigs afterwards…
(sometimes during if they want to distract you from running)
J: We’re onto something.
So far: mandatory martial arts training.
Use neat belts from martial arts to a) marry well or b) run for public office.

J: this

adapted to 2018, but I firmly believe we need to get kids away from computers for a couple of years after high school, look through their eyes and touch with their hands.
Do it in Point Reyes.
DC: Sounds good to me, I have a 7 passenger van full of tools.
J: We just need another 5 tools.
DC: That is what yard sales and swap meets are for. $ US

J: But it wouldn’t be an NAAB accredited school…..

DC: So what, would have to decide if that matters.

J: Count me in.
DC: Ok, what title would you like?
J: Co-laborer
t: I fully endorse this plan.

Be the Brian MacKay-Lyons of California.

DC: Ok, but my name is: David Curtis (of I don’t know where)


1. Martial Arts portion

2. Shop/maker areas

3. Brainstorming areas

4. Critical thinking portion

5. Drawing sessions

6. Creative writing workshop

7. Physical modeling areas

8. Digital modeling 3D print area

9. Event area, presentation

10. Event area, Ted Talk type place

11. Critique stations

12. Group critique areas

13. Resident studios (Primitive hut)

14. Guest studios (Yurt)

15. e retail to amazon

16. retail to local

17. local energy source, net zero campus

18. online faculty, resident faculty, guest faculty

19. R&D broadcast, weekly show

20. Business school portion

21. Environmental leadership portion

22. Global conflict resolution portion (Model UN)

copyright David Curtis 2018

J: sounds legit
DC: SMART line adjacent
J: Any warehouse will do, with some yard….and three phase power.
DC: I would think tents would be nice given all the fires each year, that way we can bug out for the month. (think M*A*S*H)
J: Ok
t: What if you have 3 cats?
DC: 3 is ok…4 is even more exciting, but can result in ties when cat voting.
t: I have Maine Coons. They each count twice.
DC: Count twice, cut once

t: Unschool is where its at.

DC: What does the “Un” stand for?
t: Means ‘anti-‘.
DC: It wouldn’t have to be called a school.
NCI-(redacted) = Northern California Institute of (redacted)

I suppose it should be NCI-Des since I am merely a licensed designer.

t: It doesn’t have to look like one nor act like one either. No classrooms. No assignments.
DC: I just bought the domain name.

t: I have teaching experience!

DC: Excellent me too, I’m going to scout some sites in Sonoma after I do yard duty, the domain name is: NCI-des.space

X: I would like to teach there – BIM – studio hrs would be from on Friday from 8am to 5am Saturday – non-stop – with other instructors to provide conflicting instruction as a BIM Boot camp

DC: Ok, do you like tents?
c: Students r responsible for own computer, software, & power generator?
DC: Students are responsible for being students,
breathing, thinking, doing, I think it would be like workshops, one could do 1 day, 1 week, 1 year…probably project based intervals, SCI-Arc had the students propose their own program (back in the 1984 when I first looked into SCI-Arc).

X: There would also be mandatory PT, at 0400 the students will run for 5 miles, then proceed up Vallejo st (the steep side) and do 100 push ups on the cross streets.

DC: Does PT involve drinking?

(I think a bar.)

c: You run, or you drink whisky.

(editor’s note: definitely the second option)

DC: 10am PST, light brunch

J: There are a lot of great ideas swirling around in here, but I’m starting to become concerned about overhead. I think that we’re losing sight of the goal here. Correct me if I’m wrong, but the point is to make money, not provide a well-rounded education, right?

All this talk of faculty, tents, warehouses, etc. is adding up to a significant investment and I’m wondering if there will be any room for profit?

DC: I assume it would be structured as a non-profit. I’ve taught at both public and private non-profits and a for-profit private (briefly).
I would only go non-profit as a legal structure.

X: CCA’s grad programs are similar to SCI-Arch, except with an interdisciplinary aspect.

DC: Will check (it) out.

DC: Wow, they have buildings already,

but it is East Bay, I’m setting up shop in North Bay.
(editor’s note: CCA also has SF location)

PN: I’d have 10 simple rules for my (redacted) of (redacted):

1 studios can only be taught by registered & practicing (redacted) who’ve built works from no more than 3 years ago (built works count as research in my redacted)

2 X must take a course in real-estate financing.

3 Studio projects will coincide with other (redacted) wherever practical. For example when studying wood frame structures the studio project(s) should incorporate wood frame construction.

4 The production of construction documentation will be (redacted) in tandem with studio. If (one) can’t document it, how can (one) build it?

5 (A) goal of this (redacted) of (redacted) is to prepare (redacted), therefore participation in (redacted) and (redacted) is required. Special exemptions for X pursuing (redacted) in other jurisdictions will be permitted on a case by case basis.

6 Studios, (redacted) will have more than one project during the semester.

7 anyone who uses X crit time during juries to snipe berate or engage in an intellectual argument not pertinent to the work being presented will be (redacted).

8 Sexual harassment will not be tolerated between X Y and or Z.

9 (redacted) Extra curricular activities shall be encouraged. X will be provided with family leave, discrimination based on familiar status will not be tolerated.

10 On-site construction observation for at least one semester for a construction project is (redacted). All construction projects scheduled to last more than 6 months at the institution that host my (redacted) of (redacted) shall be required to accommodate X observation of the construction site, have biweekly meetings between X and construction manager, general contractor, site superintendent, architect or record or other designated persons. Xs observing construction for class credit shall be allowed access to progress meetings,bidding documents, shop drawings, meeting minutes, change orders, architect’s supplemental instructions, request for information, and other information to be specified by the (redacted) on a case by case basis for educational purposes.

There are a lot of good design focused (redacted) but we also need X with a much stronger understanding of the technical aspect of (redacted) and the practice of (redacted).  The problem with schools choosing to marginalize the technical skills or focusing on skills not widely in use in the profession is the burden of teaching theses usable and needed skills then fall to the firms, who are probably less than willing to absorb the cost of finishing a recent graduate’s education.  This may be one reason why it is so hard for recent graduates to find work.

(editor’s note: redactions of PN content were by DC)

DC: I think it is a school of design hence the Des part.

I don’t support IDP nor do I support NCARB as they are currently functioning.

J: thanks for the clarification DC, I was about to submit my resignation…
PN: IDP and NCARB are the game we have to play and the only viable nation wide path right now for professional registration. Changing IDP and NCARB has been discussed on other threads before and will come up again.
DC: Initially the school would be to get students up to speed with whatever they need to do what they are wanting to do. I suspect that once it becomes a “going concern” there will be a lot of work towards what levels of institutional acceptance might become useful.
But I think it is safe to say we have enough programs that are “playing by the existing rules”, don’t you?
J: keep the bureaucrats at bay at least for a couple of years
DC: like 30, then when I am dead, they can figure out what happened.
J: As soon as you mention “school”, the strait jacket-eers show up and try to put it in a package and sell it.
There is no mention of the word “architect” “architecture” “license” or “registered” in your original post –
I would hire dancers, physicists, masons, musicians, painters, sculptors, astronauts, marathoners, vintners, carpenters, etc. essentially no one with a “license”, but with a life well lived.

DC: Yes, it would be a circus but without travel.

t: I’m convinced this is actually happening.

DC: Come to Cali. Bring a tent.

J: I’m game for summer 2018…and beyond.
DC: Excellent, I am here for 5 more years, then OR
t: I was going to trade in my house for an RV and hit the highway at some point anyway.
DC: I’m going to do these pod things. See the (Primitive Hut).

CC: don’t forget to hire a PR rep for the students to get their work out there and good lighting for selfies.

DC: Lighting is very important, sound also important.

t: DISC-101 to 401 or whatever, I’d like to help teach people how to guess a plan. We will spend the first week or two building a ‘mind palace’ for storing knowledge outside of internet search engines.

Some combo of PN’s idea of a good curriculum and David Curtis’ idea of one would be pretty decent.

DC: yes, it would grow from the people who show up, circus/art show,

think burning man without the fire & overdoses.

K: You know how SCI-Arc people wear scarves for no reason? You should have your own flair that doesn’t make any sense. I’m thinking cowboy boots and spurs.

DC: Should? Oh spurs…I don’t have spurs. But yes.
J: Won’t everyone have the belts given out from the martial arts courses?

DC: The belts are earned,

one has to earn the belts.

(What do they think the scarves are for?)
(Dr Bouras has agreed to participate.)
We’re not calling it a school, we’re calling it design events. It may develop into a school but that word comes with a lot of baggage as evidenced by PN’s post.

Plus she also has cats.

Sonoma, South North Ma(something)

OA: David Curtis, perhaps you don’t know but SCI Arc (   ) started under the leadership of Ray Kappe as Thom was one of the six original faculty supporting and following Ray, not the other way around. It is something we should be clear, thank you.

DC: Yes, I did know actually.
Thom has had more of an impact on me personally over the years.
I participated in the M*A*S*H charrette in LV years ago.
Thom/Morphosis led a team there.
(I had a press credential but ended up working mostly with the Swisher Hall led team on the multi purpose building, but I kept wandering over to the Morphosis tables for obvious reason)

I have one of his pencil sketches of the Rockledge residence I got in an AIA auction. Big fan of his work.

RickB: A friend and a mentor and Oregon registered architect who I knew was a different Thomas. Sad that he passed on a few years ago. He and his former bosses Ernest & Ebba Brown were mentors in Architecture.
As for Thom Mayne, he’s an interesting fellow.
DC: Mr. Kappe has an office near my house
(end transcript)
© David Curtis 2018

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